New thiopyrylium and pyrylium salt-based photoinitiating systems for visible light induced free radical polymerization (FRP) or free radical promoted cationic polymerization (FRPCP) under visible lights are presented. The reaction mechanisms are investigated by laser flash photolysis and the structure/reactivity trend is discussed. The abilities of two different classes of coinitiators are investigated (thiols/disulfides and silanes). In FRP, upon irradiation with a xenon lamp (lambda > 390 nm), the (thio)pyrylium salts in combination with thiols or disulfides lead to very high polymerization rates, compared to the reference eosin Y/methyldiethanolamine system. In FRPCP, silanes are found much better coinitiators: a high efficiency of the photopolymerization under air is noted. (C) 2008 Wiley Periodicals, Inc. J Polym Sci Part A: Polym Chem 46: 7369-7375, 2008